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sidepocket13 · Jul 22, 2005, 09:16 PM // 21:16

i always thought that "Game Experience May Change During Online Play" refered to lag and other technical issues??

Loviatar · Jul 22, 2005, 09:16 PM // 21:16

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Originally Posted by Aernok

All it takes is parental supervision. That will solve all your video game rating problems.

not so

there are hypocrites who boast of their high moral standards against the obscene dancing and make a choice

1 do the *moral* thing and delete the game until the anti nude dancing filter they want is done

2 play the game with its imorality (LETTING THE KIDS WATCH) because the game playing is more important than what message they send to the kids

and the people in this catagory are still playing so we know how important their morality is to them

names withheld ..........oh yes

if they dont yell nobody will know

and this is NOT refering to the original poster who is NOT in this catagory

just to make that clear

d4nowar · Jul 22, 2005, 09:18 PM // 21:18

Guild Wars promotes racism just as much as any other game.\

Starcraft does by having US West, US East, Asia 1, Asia 2, etc...

Also, take a look at your local world map. You are likely to see your home country right in the middle where everyone can see it, and other countries are smashed up against the side. Does that mean that some countries are better than others and deserve the top spot in maps?

stumpy · Jul 22, 2005, 09:21 PM // 21:21

WarriorMonk ... just because you didnt see people saying that doesn't mean that guildwars is worse off. Diablo1 does not have any competative gameplay ... its diablo ... solely rpg. In any competetive enviroment (look at any game CS, darn go to a REAL LIFE hockey game) you will have some brutes, some well mannered smart azzes, and some immature kids running there mouths off.

Do you have children? Go to there school and take at look at some of the segregation .... in fact do one step better and listen to some of their language they use. This is an immaturity issue ... not a gw issue.

I am serious ...

Mercury Angel · Jul 22, 2005, 09:23 PM // 21:23

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Originally Posted by sidepocket13

i always thought that "Game Experience May Change During Online Play" refered to lag and other technical issues??

It's located right under the ESRB rating always for a reason

http://esrb.com/esrbratings_guide.asp#symbols

Iceciro · Jul 22, 2005, 09:23 PM // 21:23

There isn't any BLOOD in Guild Wars. It doesn't even show Rurik properly getting his head chopped off! I have King of Fighters: Maximum Impact for the PS2, it's rated Teen and it has way more suggestion and cleavage showing that Guild Wars could HOPE to have.

Forboding Angel · Jul 22, 2005, 09:24 PM // 21:24

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Originally Posted by WarriorMonk

GW is an online only rpg. They recently added the "ale" drink into the game. Before ESRB reviewed the game was before the release. I am confident that the "ale" may suggest to kids that "ale" is all fun and games. By adding the alcoholic beverage in game, it glamorizes the use of them. This is why I think ESRB should review the GW rating of Teen.

Also in GW a lot of people act criminally. This game has scammers who scam other such as ***name removed*** and nothing much is done to them. By allowing scammers to get away, they promote the ideology that criminals are not punished. Farthermore, people in game may harass others. If no action is used to prvent this then, I believe this game should be slapped with a harsher rating.

This game also has people stripping down to undergarments and engaging in a dance like sex act. This is highly inapporpriate for 13 year olds to witness.

This is why I want to petiton here and then see if I can get the ESRB to review the rating. Sign below if you agree.

Why are all your posts trying to get people riled up?

Sex dances? I think you mean Sexually suggestive dances. Well, mtv doesn't have a block on it. Last time I checked Micheal Jackson did the triller dance at one time on mtv and children were not banned from watching mtv.

(BTW while I make that agruement, let me note that IO do not reccommend letting Children watch mtv)

sidepocket13 · Jul 22, 2005, 09:25 PM // 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury Angel

It's located right under the ESRB rating always for a reason

http://esrb.com/esrbratings_guide.asp#symbols

thanks! you learn something new every day!!!!

Mercury Angel · Jul 22, 2005, 09:37 PM // 21:37

As a reminder for those who need to be reminded-

Whether or not the poster is annoying and begins to start putting up bunk arguments and trolls on occasion is IRRELEVANT to the merit of his suggestion.

Whether or not you agree with ESRB rating content of the game is also irrelevant to the topic.

The topic is obviously about the ESRB, which exists, and which relates to the game in that its label is on it. If you have a problem with the ESRB, I suggest you take it up elsewhere, because you're driving this wildly off-topic.

Whether or not you find 'worse things out there' is similarly irrelevant to the ESRB rating system, except as cases of precedent.
You might have had sex at the age of 12, but that doesn't change the content rating system.

If nothing else, the inclusion of Alcohol IS a valid reason to review the rating of Guild Wars, because prior to release, it didn't have any, and if you'll check the ratings system here-
http://esrb.com/esrbratings_guide.asp#symbols
The use and reference of alcohol are supposed to be listed.

Arguing any points such as people drinking under age, in different countries with different legislations, and so on and so forth, is, once again, pointless-
That's an issue with the ESRB rating system itself.

As it stands, there is not a doubt in my mind that the label should now include Reference and Use of Alcohol.

If you don't care what the heck ESRB thinks, then don't. That's your option. You, and/or your parents, have every right to ignore it.

There's no reason to get upset because someone suggests a review of the ESRB rating of Guild Wars. Simply provide evidence against arguments you don't believe are true and let the rest go. If they're true, then they're true, and there's not a thing you can do about it.

WarriorMonk · Jul 22, 2005, 09:43 PM // 21:43

"Additionally, online games that include user-generated content (e.g., chat, maps, skins) carry the notice "Game Experience May Change During Online Play" to warn consumers that content created by players of the game has not been rated by the ESRB."

(from ESRB site)

ANET made ale, not the players.

d4nowar · Jul 22, 2005, 09:44 PM // 21:44

I think we can safely assume that it is nonalcoholic ale. It's just a placebo. There is nothing in it. The game never says that there is alcohol in dwarven ale. And since we have no access to a real dwarf, there is no way of telling if the dwarven ale has alcohol in it or not.

Dan Mega · Jul 22, 2005, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Do you have children? Because its not the government or another third party's responsibility to monitor what they're playing.

sidepocket13 · Jul 22, 2005, 09:45 PM // 21:45

"ANET made ale not the players."

i guess thats a valid point, and reading what mercury said made me realize that i really dont care what the rating is, unless they start to take out different "things" that are already in the game in order to keep the rating they have............. but i still stick to my guns by saying that "ale" can have other meanings then alcoholic.

WarriorMonk · Jul 22, 2005, 09:47 PM // 21:47

Does the ale not affect your stats in GW?

Acan Vishnu · Jul 22, 2005, 09:49 PM // 21:49

Is Guildwarsguru affiliated with the ESRB? Is ArenaNet?

What? No? .. Really?

Then why on God's green earth is this here except as some sort of trolling attempt at flamebait? Mercury Angel said it once, and I'll say it again, "Please go here: http://www.esrb.com/consumer_online_hotline.asp"

If you want the ESRB to do something, maybe you should tell them? I somehow doubt their here watching the GWG forum, just waiting to pick up some hot tip about changes in Guildwars.

d4nowar · Jul 22, 2005, 09:49 PM // 21:49

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Originally Posted by WarriorMonk

Does the ale not affect your stats in GW?

The only thing it affects is your image on your computer screen, and the thing it shows is something similar to being dizzy or dehydrated. The drink could be incredibly high in salt. With that much salt in your system you would have the same effects as those shown by the "Dwarven Ale."

Loviatar · Jul 22, 2005, 09:50 PM // 21:50

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Originally Posted by sidepocket13

"but i still stick to my guns by saying that "ale" can have other meanings then alcoholic.

just as *cider* can be plain old apple juice or *hard* cider with a kick

WarriorMonk · Jul 22, 2005, 09:50 PM // 21:50

I have already submitted a complaint and think about this.

As your suggestion has been submitted to ANet, this thread has reached the end of its rather long tawdry usefulness. Consider it closed. ~Anie

d4nowar · Jul 22, 2005, 09:51 PM // 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarriorMonk

I have already submitted a complaint and think about this.

Gambling was removed because it is "illegal". Now think about ale. This game needs to be reviewed.

Rolling in outposts was just a scam begging to happen. There is still gambling going on in Guild Wars, just not rolling gambles in outposts.

WarriorMonk · Jul 22, 2005, 09:52 PM // 21:52

100k trades is just a scam waiting to happen as well.